Taking a Guess at Rock the Garden 2012

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  1. Matt says:

    Hahaha nice, Adam. I would love to see Pulp rock the garden. Tune-Turds is horrendous. Idk how people actively listen to her music.

  2. Adam Bubolz says:

    Josh, didn’t David Byrne headline the 2nd or 3rd Rock The Garden? Might have been the pre-Current ones.

  3. jonbehm says:

    I like Tune-Yards you jerks. Obviously you just don’t like her because you are hipsters because that’s the only reason why anyone doesn’t like anything that I like

  4. jonbehm says:

    But yeah, Tune-Yards also seems like a pretty likely guess. Lets also not rule out the Yeah Yeah Yeah’s or one of Jack White’s bands

  5. Matt says:

    Haha Jon, I actually don’t “get” tune-yards, so maybe I’m the anti-hipster.

    I think we can all agree that it would be a delight seeing people’s faces melt if Food Pyramid played this show though.

  6. Jamey says:

    definitely not Dawes, Edward Sharpe, The Shins, Bon Iver, Poliça, or Foo Fighters

  7. solace says:

    i would say Howler or Night Moves as the local is a safe bet. wouldn’t be surprised by Tune Yards. possibly St. Vincent since she’s in town the day before @ the Fitz.

    other than that I really have no clue…

    Head & The Heart? Silversun Pickups? Beck? Jack White? Alabama Shakes? Dr. Dog?

    your guess is as good as mine.

  8. jonbehm says:

    Jamey – if not those bands then who?

  9. Jamey says:


    I actually don’t know, but those bands can be ruled out due to touring schedules and playing other festivals and shows locally this summer that are within the radius clause.

  10. Jamey says:

    for example, Edward Sharpe plays a big outdoor gig at the Cabooze 3 weeks before on May 25th. The Shins play Brick on June 1st, both can be ruled out as a result.

    Dawes have a gig in Virginia the day before and in upstate New York the day after, so I suppose they could fly in for a one off, but that seems risky and the other gig in NY is a festival as well.

    as for Foo Fighters. no way they could afford a band that big. their guarantee is likely upwards of 400-500k for a festival these days, which is more than their entire budget.

  11. jonbehm says:

    Safe from the Foo Fighters then – that’s good. I suppose we could have looked some of these up but its more fun to speculate off of the hip.

    Revised guesses with those considerations:

    Silversun Pickups
    Head and the Heart
    Night Moves

    Solace, I took a couple from your list. I doubt St. Vincent would play another show right on the heels of her Fitz show – and isn’t there a radius rule anyways? Silversun Pickups would also be right up there on my “most dreaded nightmare” list. Speaking of nightmares, how about Matt & Kim?

  12. solace says:

    re: St. Vincent… yeah hard to say… that event is an MPR sponsored event and she’s not playing a full show, just 3-4 songs is what they usually play during Wits. but she’s also playing First Ave on May 12th too, so it seems unlikely (albeit feasibly possible).

    i wouldn’t be surprised if Tune Yards was on the bill… seems like nearly every Current DJ fell for them over the last year.

    I actually wouldn’t put your Howler + 4otf proposal past them either to be honest…

  13. Matt says:

    No more MN roots rock…

    Let’s get Deerhunter…Brandford’s on a roll in Minneapolis after his last performance.

  14. solace says:

    I like Americana :/

    Always have tho. I blame Uncle Tupelo

  15. solace says:

    Any plans to do guesses for the L

  16. solace says:

    Any plans to do guesses for the Live Nation Festival the weekend after RTG?

    Or SoundTown? (7/26-7/28)

  17. Adam Bubolz says:

    I got no overall Americana issues, just the boring bands people really go nuts for.

    I think we’re doing at least SoundTown guesses…

  18. jonbehm says:

    The Strib beat us to LiveNation – guessing that their guess was an educated one.

    Soundtown is anyone’s guess – suprised they haven’t announced any bands yet. Maybe behind the scenes everyone’s fighting over the Raconteurs or something?

  19. solace says:

    yeah, but those are only the two headliners for the LiveNation thing… those are the same 2 rumors i’d heard as well, so they seem legit.

    and Adam… fair enough. i can see how if the only Dawes one is exposed to is the songs on The Current, i wouldn’t be interested much either, but they won me over live the 3x I saw them prior to North Hills coming out and have loved them live ever since. I rarely listen to their records.

    and Jon, maybe you hadn’t heard, but Jack White has a solo album out in May and is not working with any of his other bands this summer as a result (Brendan Benson also has a new solo record out too and is playing the Varsity in June fwiw).

    Should be hearing about SoundTown soon too apparently (maybe even some bands today).

  20. Matt says:

    Solace…I love Americana, I’m more echoing the disdain for the overplayed stuff.

    Dont blame UT, I love Tupelo, Son Volt, Golden Smog etc etc. Speaking of which, why don’t they throw a curve ball and get Golden Smog to play.

    I’m also looking forward to SoundTown. I didn’t make it out last year, bit of looked like fun.

  21. solace says:

    hmm… Dirty Projectors just released a sweet new track off what is supposedly a new album out this spring.

    maybe they’ll play RTG or one of the other 2 festivals?

    and the Walker has hosted Dirty Projectors before… would be pretty cool (i can’t actually attend RTG this year due to a wedding anyway).

  22. solace says:

    looks like Soundtown is releasing their initial lineup on Monday (was supposed to be today)

  23. solace says:

    scratch that… apparently the person doing their twitter account was jumping the gun a bit… soon tho

  24. groovez says:

    Why has Bon Iver been ruled out? He has a break in his tours starting June 10th (after Bonaroo) and he isn’t playing anywhere near the Twin Cities before that. I’d say Bon Iver is a pretty good possibility for this year’s headliner!

  25. Jamey says:

    because he’s playing another outdoor gig this summer

  26. jonbehm says:

    Jamey – I don’t think that takes him out of the running. A lot of artists will play multiple outdoor gigs this Summer

  27. Jamey says:

    Jon, true, but you’re forgetting radius clauses for the larger festivals… ie: can’t play another show within a specific amount of time before/after within a certain number of miles.

    I don’t think RTG has nearly as strong of one as other festivals, but I’d imagine the LiveNation one the very next weekend has a pretty strict one…

  28. jonbehm says:

    I don’t see anything on Bon Iver’s festival schedule that would prompt a radius clause dispute. Unless you are saying he (they) are playing the Live Nation thing?

  29. solace says:

    far as i’m aware he’s not playing either, but obviously things could have changed.

    i have a feeling Free Energy and/or The Hold Steady will play RTG. FE have a new album done and out this summer/fall, THS are finishing one up and play a one off festival in Calgary the weekend after RTG.

  30. solace says:

    oh, and with the announcement of a new Dirty Projectors record soon, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them on the bill either. they have a past relationship with The Walker too.

  31. solace says:

    aaand i see I already mentioned that above… nice short term memory you got there ace.

  32. jonbehm says:

    hey solace, you think maybe the Dirty Projectors are going to play? How about the Dirty Projectors?


  33. solace says:

    I dunno… do they have a new album coming out soon or anything? 😉

  34. solace says:

    apparently not caring about embargos… Chris R. dropped sly dropped that there will be 5 bands on the lineup this year:


  35. solace says:

    dropped sly dropped is my favorite new band name.

  36. And the announcement will feature a performance from one of the 5 bands. Howler will be back for their show at the Varsity the next night. I can totally see them doing it.

  37. solace says:

    yup. my thoughts exactly.

    plus they moved the announcement from the 17th to the 18th a while back, probably to make sure they were back from Ohio on the 15th.

  38. jonbehm says:

    Ah, perhaps America will have Given Up by then

  39. Adam Bubolz says:

    Ooh I hope they have the old guy from the Howler commercial do the lineup announcement! That guy hates young people!

  40. Notorious L.O.B.E.S. says:

    Drive By Truckers!!

  41. grahampbua says:

    Polica.. fawned over.. thats an understatement. I bet that Grim Reaper walking around SXSW figured that 89.3 was going to play Polica to death and wanted to case the action.

  42. Josh says:

    Now I am glad we didn’t guess the live nation/river fest. Such awfulness.

  43. solace says:

    yeah… what a waste of brain power that would have been.

  44. C Brown says:

    Wow, you bloggers couldn’t be more off base if you tried. As a long time fan of The Current I have to say that I mildly appreciate the music of Bon Iver but neither me or anyone else sees him as a deity. And nobody in the band Magnetic Zeros is named Edward Sharp; the singer’s name is Alex. They are a them, not a him. Do some research before you speak so pretentiously. Sorry if you are all too cool for school but get over yourselves for Christ’s sake; to each their own, right? If you don’t appreciate attending the show you can all spend the night in Uptown sipping appletinis.

  45. solace says:


    who the hell said there was anyone in the band named Edward?!? i’m quite familiar with them, as i’ve seen them 3x and they’ve disappointed all 3x (so much so that my wife begged us to leave after 5 songs @ First Ave).

    and what are we “off base” on? the lineup?

  46. Josh says:

    I’ll fall on the sword for that one…pure laziness/putting things together last minute on my part. I know they are a band and not a person ….I also have had the unfortunate experience of seeing them live before, so I know all too well the makeup of the band. Despite my lackluster writing/editing skills, I stand by the fact that I don’t like them. I’ve corrected the post…thanks for pointing it out “C.”

    In regards to “to each their own,” I wholeheartedly agree. People tell me the music I like sucks all the time and I often get pissed and tell them they don’t know what they are talking about…but the whole point of these posts is to say who we would love to see and who we would hate to see. It wouldn’t be much fun if we pulled a Rolling Stone and gave everyone a 3.5 out of 5 and said “no matter what they choose it will be super!”

    As for Uptown and anywhere serving appletinis, I avoid both. They would probably be playing Bon Iver or Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeros. 😉

  47. jonbehm says:

    Noone disparaged Bon Iver in the post either – I think C Brown is just projecting. I have enjoyed the hell out of some Bon Iver shows – He’s (they) my most likely candidate to play because he fits the demographic completely. I think some of the hyperbole thrown around Bon Iver approaches ridiculousness, but I have no problem with the band itself other than a few cuts off the last album that I can’t stand.

  48. Adam Bubolz says:

    I’d disparage Bon Iver if I had the chance

    -Adam Appletini

  49. C Brown says:

    Solace: My “off base” comment was directed to the original posts; not the following comments. You, in fact, were spot on with speculative bands and were refreshingly non-judgemental. Josh: sorry if I came off as abrasive…I was a little heated that evening. I appreciate the update. Whoever plays that night I highly doubt it won’t be worth seeing as a whole.

  50. solace says:

    Adam is gonna be happy with at least one band on the lineup!

  51. solace says:

    and yes i’m being facetious

  52. C Brown says:

    I don’t see Bon Iver as a headliner. For one, he opened in 2008. Also, I would expect a more energetic closing set. As for Phoenix…they don’t have anything scheduled so I would personally count them out; I highly doubt they would make RTG their only show this summer. As for Edward Sharpe: playing the Cabooze on May 25th, I’d write them off as well. Has anyone considered the Hold Steady for a supporting act? If you check their schedule it makes sense logistically. For what it is worth I’m hoping for Jack White to headline.

  53. Adam Bubolz says:

    I’d actually like to see Jack White

  54. Jamey says:

    Hold Steady are definitely playing… Jack White sadly is not

  55. Matt says:

    This is, by far, this worst RTG lineup ever.

    What in the fuck were they thinking?

    In the last year these bands have played a combined 50+ shows in the cities. What a load of shit.

  56. lolmatt says:


  57. solace says:

    Matt… i’d still take it over the 2010 lineup…

    that one only had Sharon Jones, and she wasn’t even the headliner

  58. Adam Bubolz says:

    I’d take the Hold Steady over the previous headliners of the last few years for sure. I’ve already said what I think of tune-yards and the local components I really have no strong feelings towards in any ways really.

    Matt is right though, all of these play here really frequently…

  59. Jamey says:

    yeah, but this festival has not been for the die hard/avid concert goers for quite some time imo… it’s for the people who go to 2-3 shows a year more than anything.

    also, My Morning Jacket KILLED it last year :). best actual “rock” headliner that they’ve ever had play RTG for me.

  60. jonbehm says:

    solace, if you are going to go into MMJ superfan mode you may as well use your real name

  61. Adam Bubolz says:

    “yeah, but this festival has not been for the die hard/avid concert goers for quite some time imo… it’s for the people who go to 2-3 shows a year more than anything.”

    Fair enough I guess. It’s not like I’ve attended any of these since the Sonic Youth/Stereolab one.

  62. Matt says:

    “lolmatt” – Matt

    Said and done, I’m just surprised they didn’t rope in a more nationally known band, one without ties to Minnesota. No, The Hold Steady doesn’t count.

    Yeah, it’s put on The Current, but this is a recycled circle jerk of a lineup. Gimme a break. Probably the safest lineup/bands they could’ve picked.

    And tune yards is terrible. Still.

  63. solace says:

    whatever do you mean Jon? 😉

  64. solace says:

    and Adam… i’ve been to all but 2010 (MGMG / Sharon Jones / OK Go / RGC) and 2003 with Wilco/Bad Plus/Fog (was out of town, otherwise I would have been there).

    my favorite one is most definitely David Byrne (i sadly missed Antibalas’ opening set). after that probably the first one back (Andrew Bird / New Pornographers / Cloud Cult / Bon Iver), last year, Sonic Youth / Stereolab, then The Decemberists / Calexico / Yeasayer / Solid Gold one.

    as much as I adore Sonic Youth, they were touring for NYC Ghosts & Flowers when they played RTG and that album isn’t one of my favorites sadly, even though I saw them 4 times on that tour (granted most were opening for Pearl Jam).

  65. Adam Bubolz says:

    That was the first time I ever got to see them so it holds a special place. Also seeing Cock ESP outside on that stage as part of the opener sure was something. Someone get them on this lineup.

  66. solace says:

    true… that was my first Sonic Youth show too (have now seen them probably a dozen times crazily enough).

    my love of Sonic Youth is very untraditional… it mostly started with Murray Street and furthered with Sonic Nurse and Rather Ripped, which is my favorite 3 album run of theirs. I always dug Daydream Nation a ton and heard it sometime in the early to mid 90’s, liked Goo, Dirty and Washing Machine a bit too, but they really seemed to find their stride of experimental sounds + pop melodies with Murray.

  67. Adam Bubolz says:

    Solace, let’s see if they’ll let us book next year to fix this. We’ll get Arcade Fire, Wolf Eyes and Journey to headline. World peace will be achieved.

  68. Grahampuba says:

    Circle jerk.. you took the words right out of my mouth.

  69. solace says:

    Adam, don’t forget Bad Brains

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